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Learn Asking the Right Questions as a Data Scientist with Phoebe · Session 4 of 6

Teaching while you ask

Every open question on your sheet has a second sentence: why you are asking, said out loud. Session 3 counted what it does on the bench, a point of trust per open question and one plain thing she learns about data. Tonight is about the sentence itself, because the version most scientists write is true and useless. "We need labelled ground truth before I can tune the threshold" is a correct principle that teaches Adeline nothing, since three of its words are words she would have to ask about, and she will not ask. She will nod. The work of this session is making twelve second sentences plain enough that a person who runs pharmacies learns one real thing from each, without anyone giving a lecture.

🟡 Core Data scientists, and anyone asked for a prediction No code. A pen. 45 min
0-3 · Welcome 3-18 · The curse, one concept, lesson not lecture 18-40 · Build-along: twelve lines, rewritten 40-45 · Q&A
Part 0

Where we start

You have a sheet of open questions with a teach-back line on each, and session 3 put the bank's version of it on the bench. The questions are fine. The second sentences are the problem, because you wrote them in the vocabulary you think in, and you cannot hear that from the inside. Adeline Tan, operations director of Harbourline, a constructed chain of 38 pharmacy and clinic outlets, is the reader tonight, and her request is still "Can we predict which outlets are going to run out of stock?" The door you open widest is Outcome, the first of the Six Doors, and the concept you will spend your ninety seconds on sits behind it. The aim is narrow: by the end of a 45-minute meeting she can repeat one idea about prediction to her boss in her own words, and the other eleven lines have quietly landed as single sentences she did not have to stop and decode.

🎫 Clear all three quiz questions to stamp your passport Live = presented in the 45 minutes Self-study = the full depth, after class ★ Build-along = write it yourself

★ What you walk out with tonight. Twelve teach-back lines rewritten with every word she would have to ask about replaced, each one sentence; one concept chosen for the meeting, "the two wrong guesses cost different amounts", with its ninety-second version written in three plain sentences; and the sentence you hope she says to her boss before the board meets. Session 5 takes the same sheet and turns her answers into three joint projects, one of which is not a model at all.

Part 1 · covers why you cannot hear your own jargon

Your curse of knowledge, not hers

5 min live

In 1989 Camerer, Loewenstein and Weber showed that better-informed people cannot fully set their information aside when predicting what less-informed people will understand, and named it the curse of knowledge. The Tech Writing course teaches it in depth, with what it does to documentation. The scientist's version is smaller and sharper: a teach-back line written in the words of a modelling notebook. "We need labelled ground truth, then I tune the threshold for recall" sounds clear to the person who wrote it, because behind every word they hear a whole method. Adeline hears a sentence with three holes in it and one word she thinks she recognises.

ONE LINE, DRAWN TWICE the claim does not change; the three words she would have to ask about do BEFORE, IN THE SCIENTIST'S WORDS three things she would ask about; she nods instead We need labelled ground truth then I tune the threshold for recall "sorry, what do you mean?" AFTER, IN HERS I need a record of past empty shelves then I set how sure a guess must be to catch most of them same claim, no word to ask about, still one sentence; she learns that a guess needs a history of what it guesses The circled words were invisible to the person who wrote the line. Reading it aloud to someone else is the only way to see them.
🔍 Click to zoom - the top line is correct and the bottom line is the same line; only the bottom one teaches her anything
LiveThe words she would have to ask about3 min▶

Take any teach-back line on your sheet and read it aloud to someone who does not do data work. Any word that makes them say "sorry, what do you mean?" is a jargon cost, and session 3's bench prices it: every jargon question in the bank takes five minutes, because you have to explain, and costs a point of trust, because she is a little less sure you understand her shop. The line was meant to earn trust. With one wrong word it spends it.

The scientist's usual offenders, with the plain word that replaces each. Model: the thing that makes the guess, or simply "the forecast". Feature: one of the facts the guess looks at, like last month's sales or the supplier's lead time. Label: the answer we already know for the past, here a record that a shelf was empty on a given day. Precision: when it says a shelf will run out, how often it is right. Recall: of the shelves that really ran out, how many it warned you about. Threshold: how sure the guess must be before the van moves stock. Class imbalance: the thing we are hunting for is rare, most shelves are fine most weeks. Backtest: pretending it is last March and checking what the guess would have said. None of the plain versions is longer than a breath, and every one is a thing she already knows exists.

The test is not "would a smart person understand this". Adeline is a smart person who runs 38 outlets. The test is whether the word is one she uses at work, and the honest way to find out is her face, which is why the reading is done aloud and never on paper.

Self-studyHer word is predict; yours is model2 min▶

Notice where the line falls. "Predict" is her word: she used it in her first sentence, so a teach-back line can say "prediction" freely. "Model" is yours. Six of the twelve teach-back lines in the build-along say "model", and they were written by someone trying to be plain. It is the scientist's hardest word to hear, because it is the word of the whole job. To her it is either a thing on a catwalk or a thing a consultant sells, and neither is the idea you mean: a set of rules learned from the past that makes a guess about the next week.

There is also a professional reason plain is the norm and not a courtesy. Douglas Hubbard's definition of measurement, a quantitatively expressed reduction of uncertainty based on one or more observations, is itself a plain sentence with no term of art in it. The person paying for the work has to be able to check it. A teach-back line she cannot decode is a claim she cannot test, and a claim she cannot test is one she either accepts on faith or quietly ignores. Faith runs out on the first empty shelf the forecast missed; ignoring means you spent a sentence and taught nothing. Plain words are how a scientist makes their reasoning inspectable by the person who has to sign it off.

Real world

The nod that cost six weeks. A constructed case, and a common shape. A scientist told Adeline "first we will need labels for the stock-outs", watched her nod, and moved on. Six weeks later, asking for the file, he learned she had passed the request to two area managers, who had checked that the shelf-edge price labels were correct on the chronic-medication products. They were. Nobody lied and nobody was careless. A word the scientist could not hear as jargon went past a person too polite to stop the meeting, and the belief it left behind was not visible until the work had been planned on top of it. The plain version, "I need a record of each day a shelf was empty", would have told her straight away that no such record exists, because the only trace of a stock-out today is a complaint call.

Part 2 · covers the one idea that gets explained properly

One concept per meeting

5 min live

Twelve teach-back lines, and she will remember one. That is not a failure of the other eleven; single sentences land as background, and background is what most of them should be. But one idea per meeting deserves ninety seconds of proper explanation: what it is, why it matters, what it means for her Thursday. The choice is not the idea you find most interesting. It is the idea a false belief would attach to if you left it unexplained, because that belief is the one that turns into the wrong model. For a scientist on this request, it is "the two wrong guesses cost different amounts".

TWELVE LINES, ONE PULLED OUT eleven stay single sentences; one gets ninety seconds, chosen by the belief it prevents THE ONE: THE TWO WRONG GUESSES COST DIFFERENT AMOUNTS What it is: a false alarm and a missed empty shelf are two different mistakes. Why it matters: a missed one is a complaint to head office; a false one is expiry write-off. Your Thursday: the van moves stock where an empty shelf is likely enough to be worth it. ninety seconds, three sentences, and "accuracy is what matters most, yes?" never lands 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 pulled 1-2 outcome · 3-4 decision · 5-6 current way · 7-8 data state · 9-10 constraints · 11-12 success
🔍 Click to zoom - the pulled card is the only one that gets three sentences, and it is chosen by the belief it prevents
LiveChoosing the one2 min▶

Look at the five false beliefs the bench records on the fast run, because each one is a concept that was never explained. "The target is sales" attaches to what exactly is being predicted. "Daily predictions" attaches to the day the decision is made, and the van runs on Thursday. "Stock history is in the POS" attaches to what has been recorded, and the stock sheet is overwritten every Friday. "Optimise for accuracy" attaches to the two wrong guesses costing different amounts. "The model replaces the pharmacist's check" attaches to the baseline, the person looking at a shelf that any forecast has to beat. Pick the belief most likely to form in this meeting with this person, and the concept behind it is your one.

For Harbourline there are two honest candidates. The two wrong guesses cost different amounts, because "accuracy is what matters most, yes?" is the belief waiting to happen: the fast run records it at minute 5, it is the number every scientist is trained to report, and only later in a good meeting does she say she does not care what the accuracy number is. Or nothing has been recorded, because she assumes the history is in the POS and there is no stock history at all. Either is right; session 2 spent a whole evening on the second. Choose one, not both; two concepts in ninety seconds each is a lecture with an interval.

LiveThe ninety-second version2 min▶

Three sentences, in a fixed order: what it is, why it matters, what it means for her Thursday. Written in full, as it would be said after "when it happens, what does it cost you, and what does it cost when an outlet orders too much?" and her answer that a missed stock-out sends a patient to a competitor and a complaint to head office, while an over-order becomes expiry write-off, which head office measures her on:

What it is. "Any forecast of empty shelves will be wrong in two ways: sometimes it warns about a shelf that would have been fine, and sometimes it stays quiet about one that goes empty, and those are two different mistakes, not one." Why it matters. "You have just told me they cost different things, a patient and a complaint on one side and write-off on the other, so a single accuracy score hides the only thing you care about, because a forecast that never warns anyone is right almost every week and catches nothing." Her Thursday. "So before I build anything, you and I decide how many false alarms a missed empty shelf is worth, and that decides which outlets get stock on Thursday's van."

Ninety seconds, then back to the next question. The tell that it worked is that later in the meeting she talks about "a missed one" and "a false alarm" as two things, rather than asking how accurate it will be.

Self-studyWhy accuracy is the belief, in her numbers2 min▶

Session 1 did the arithmetic on the constructed sheet: about 40 chronic-medication products in 38 outlets is 1,520 outlet-product pairs, and roughly 30 stock-outs a month is about seven a week. In any week, well over 99 percent of pairs do not run out, so a forecast that says "no" to all of them scores above 99 percent accuracy and prevents no complaint calls. That is the reason "accuracy is what matters most, yes?" is dangerous rather than merely vague: it is a leading question she will agree to, and the model built on her agreement is the one that looks best and does nothing.

The ratio between the two costs is hers to set, not yours. The bank gives no number for it, on purpose: a scientist who invents "a missed shelf is worth ten false alarms" has made a business decision in a notebook. Writing the costs down as a table and deciding with them is a discipline in its own right, and the Decision Intelligence course owns it. Tonight's job is smaller: make sure she knows there are two mistakes before anyone asks her to agree to one score.

Self-studyThe test that she could repeat it to her boss2 min▶

The board meets in six weeks and wants one slide. Somebody will ask Adeline how accurate the AI is. If the one concept landed, she can say something like "we are not chasing an accuracy score; it is tuned so Thursday's van reaches the empty shelves that turn into complaints." That sentence is the whole test: it is hers, it is short, it carries the reason, and it would survive a sceptical follow-up. If instead she says "they talked about precision and recall", the concept was heard and not learned.

Write the sentence you hope she says before the meeting. It forces the ninety seconds to be built backwards from a line a non-data person could carry, and it is the cheapest rehearsal there is. It also tests the choice itself: if you cannot write a one-line version a board member would repeat, you have picked an idea that matters to you and not to her.

Real world

The wrong one. Constructed. A scientist chose "lead time sets how far ahead the forecast has to see" as the concept for Adeline's meeting, explained it well, and she repeated it perfectly: five days in Singapore, nine in Malaysia. Two weeks later the first backtest came back with an accuracy score in the high nineties and she was delighted, until the scientist admitted it had caught almost none of the empty shelves. Nobody had said out loud that the two mistakes cost different amounts, and "accuracy is what matters most, yes?" had gone unchallenged in minute five. The concept she learned was true. It was the wrong one for that meeting, because no false belief was waiting to attach to it.

Part 3 · covers the difference between teaching and talking

Lesson, not lecture

4 min live

A teach-back line passes three tests: plain, true, one sentence. The third is the one scientists fail, because the moment a line touches their method it wants a second sentence about how, and then a third about the caveat. The tell of a lecture is easy to hear from across the room: she stops answering and starts nodding. Rob Fitzpatrick's third rule for talking to customers is the whole discipline in five words, talk less and listen more, and it applies with extra force to the person who is supposedly asking the questions.

TWO MEETINGS, 45 MINUTES EACH hatched is the scientist talking; white is her talking; mustard is a teach-back line LECTURE she stops answering and starts nodding; the gaps are her saying "right" · drawn, not counted 0 min 15 30 45 LESSON each tick is one of the eleven questions in session 3's tuned run, placed at the minute it was asked 0 min 15 30 45 Tick minutes come from the bench; how the white splits into her talking is drawn. Teaching happens in the ticks.
🔍 Click to zoom - eleven one-sentence lines in 45 minutes, and the rest of the meeting is hers
LivePlain, true, one sentence2 min▶

Failing, before "when it happens, what does it cost you, and what does it cost when an outlet orders too much?": "Because the positive class is rare, raw accuracy is a misleading metric, so I would want to set the decision threshold on an asymmetric loss, weighting recall above precision, and validate it on a backtest before we talk about deployment." True, and it fails all three tests at once: six words she would ask about, three claims joined into one, and a lecture on evaluation hiding inside a reason for asking.

Passing, same question: "Guessing wrong one way costs you a complaint and wrong the other way costs you write-off, so I build the guess around which one you would rather have, not around one score." Plain, because every word is one she uses; true, because it is the principle the failing version was reaching for; one sentence, so she is answering again within three seconds. The failing version would have earned a nod. The passing version earns her answer about head office and the write-off it measures her on, which is the fact the whole model has to be built to.

Self-studyWhen she asks a follow-up, you have a lesson2 min▶

There is only one proof that a line taught something, and it is a follow-up question from her. "So a forecast could be right nearly every week and still miss the ones that matter?" means the two costs landed. "Wait, so it cannot learn stock-outs if nobody wrote them down?" means the recording concept landed. A nod proves nothing, and a polite "makes sense" proves slightly less than nothing, because it closes the topic. Silence after a teach-back line is a reason to ask your next question, not to add a sentence.

On the bench this is the mechanism, not a metaphor. Every open question earns a point of trust, and six facts on her sheet sit behind trust gates she will not cross unprompted; the most sensitive, that the only IT person holds the POS login and is leaving in January, needs trust 3. The teach-back line is where that point is earned: she answers the next question more fully because the last one came with a reason. A lecture spends minutes and earns nothing, which is the same arithmetic as the technical opener in session 3 with a friendlier face.

Real world

The follow-up that changed the plan. Constructed. After "a forecast that predicts stock-outs needs to have seen stock-outs, and if nobody recorded them, the first project is recording them", Adeline asked: "so the pharmacist in Johor who offered to keep a sheet, that is the start?" That question was the lesson landing and the project changing shape in the same breath. It moved the first piece of work from a model to a daily stock-out log in a few outlets, which is where session 5 will find it, as the one of three projects that is not a model.

Build-along

Rewrite your twelve lines for Adeline

★ 22 min · everyone writes

The sheet from session 1, teach-back column only. Twelve lines go in as you wrote them and come out with every word she would have to ask about replaced, one sentence each. Then one is chosen and given its ninety seconds. If you did not bring a sheet, the twelve lines from the bench's bank are printed in step 1 and they need the same work; they were written by a scientist trying hard to be plain, and six of them still say "model".

THE SHEET AGAIN, TEACH-BACK COLUMN WIDE request, in her words: "can we predict which outlets are going to run out of stock?" DOOR THE QUESTION TEACH-BACK, FIRST DRAFT AND REWRITE 2 Outcome how often does it happen in a month? the base rate is the floor any classifier is judged on how often it happens is the bar any guess must beat 6 Current way where do the stock numbers come from? hand-entered features carry bias the model will learn a number typed on a Friday has habits, and a guess learns the habits too 8 Data state any record of past stock levels at all? no labelled positives, so no supervised model yet to predict empty shelves I need a record of past ones; recording them comes first the one concept row 2 Struck drafts are true. They are struck because she would have had to ask about them, and she would not have asked.
🔍 Click to zoom - the column that was narrowest on the session 1 sheet is the one that outlives the meeting

Paste your twelve teach-back lines as they are. No editing yet. If you have no sheet, these twelve are the bank's, quoted exactly: the first twelve of the Six Doors order on the bench, two open questions per door, in door order.

★ Step 1 · the twelve, as written1 I need the exact thing that goes wrong before I can promise to predict it. Sales and stock-outs are different questions with different data. 2 How often it happens is the first number any prediction is judged against. If it is rare, a model that says 'never' looks accurate and is useless. 3 A prediction only pays for itself if there is an action on the other side of it. I am asking for the action first. 4 The day the decision is made sets the deadline for the prediction. A Friday forecast for a Thursday van is a wasted model. 5 Whatever you do today is the baseline any model has to beat. I write it down before I build anything. 6 A number typed by a person on a Friday behaves differently from one a till records. A model learns the typing habits too. 7 History is what a model learns from. Three years of daily sales is a lot; one year is not. 8 A model that predicts stock-outs needs to have seen stock-outs. If nobody recorded them, the first project is recording them. 9 I ask for the limits first so I do not propose something you could never approve. 10 The device decides the design. A probability table nobody opens on a phone predicts nothing. 11 If we agree on the test now, neither of us argues about it later. Your own count of complaint calls is a better test than any accuracy score I could show you. 12 The person who logs it becomes the person who owns it. That is the whole point.

Circle every word she would have to ask about. Read each line aloud to the person next to you. Mark the word at the moment their face changes, not the word you suspect. In the bank's twelve, look hard at "model", "baseline", "the device" and "probability table": each is borderline, and borderline means circle it. "Prediction" stays, because it is her word.

★ Step 2 · the circles5 Whatever you do today is the [baseline] any [model] has to beat. I write it down before I build anything. 6 A number typed by a person on a Friday behaves differently from one a till records. A [model] learns the typing habits too. 10 [The device decides the design.] A [probability table] nobody opens on a phone predicts nothing. Your own sheet will have more. "Label", "feature", "threshold", "recall" and "backtest" are the usual five.

Replace each circled word, keeping one sentence. The replacement is the plain thing the word stands for, and it is allowed to be longer than the word it replaces. It is not allowed to become a second sentence.

★ Step 3 · the replacements5 Whatever you do today is the thing any forecast of mine has to beat, so I write it down before I build anything. 6 A number typed by a person on a Friday behaves differently from one a till records, and a forecast learns the typing habits too. 10 A table of percentages nobody opens on a phone in the van warns nobody, so where they read it decides how it looks.

Read all twelve aloud and cut any that are still two. The test is a breath: if you had to take one in the middle, it is two sentences, whatever the punctuation says. Cut one half. If the second half is the important half, keep that and cut the first; in the bank's twelve it often is.

★ Step 4 · two that were two, and the cutBefore: How often it happens is the first number any prediction is judged against. If it is rare, a model that says 'never' looks accurate and is useless. After: If it happens rarely, a forecast that always says 'no' looks right almost every week and catches nothing. Before: If we agree on the test now, neither of us argues about it later. Your own count of complaint calls is a better test than any accuracy score I could show you. After: Your own count of complaint calls is a better test than any score I could show you.

Choose the one concept and write its ninety-second version. Pick by the false belief most likely to form in this meeting. Three sentences in the fixed order: what it is, why it matters, what it means for her Thursday. Mark that row on the sheet.

★ Step 5 · the one, chosen and writtenConcept: the two wrong guesses cost different amounts (row 2, outcome door) Belief it stops: "Accuracy is what matters most, yes?" What it is: A forecast can warn about a shelf that would have been fine, or miss one that goes empty, and those are two different mistakes. Why it matters: A missed one is a patient and a complaint to head office, a false one is write-off, so one accuracy score hides what you care about. Her Thursday: We decide together how many false alarms a missed shelf is worth, and that decides which outlets get stock on Thursday's van.

Write the sentence you hope she says to her boss. One line, in her voice, that a board member would accept on the one slide she has in six weeks. If you cannot write it, go back to step 5 and pick a concept that matters to her rather than to you.

★ Step 6 · her sentence"We are not chasing an accuracy score. It is tuned so Thursday's van reaches the empty shelves that turn into complaints."

The teach-back lines are the part of the meeting that outlives it. The facts go into your notes and then into session 5's tree. The lines go into her, and she carries them into the board meeting you are not in. Keep the rewritten column; session 6's one-page brief reuses the same plain words, so that what she reads in 24 hours matches what she heard.

Homework

Before session 5

30 min
  1. Rewrite the lines for a real request. Take the sheet you built in session 1 for a prediction request on your own desk and run steps 2 to 4 on its teach-back column. Keep the before and after side by side; the difference is the lesson.
  2. Record yourself asking three questions, each with its teach-back line, on your phone. Play it back and count the words the business person would have to ask about. Count "model" every time you say it.
  3. Pick the one concept for your next meeting. Name the false belief it prevents, write the three sentences, and write the line you hope the business person repeats to their boss.
  4. Bring the rewritten sheet to session 5. Her answers become a tree there, and the plain words you settled on tonight become the labels on it.
Check yourself

Three questions

Clear all three and session 4 gets stamped in your passport.

1 · What does the curse of knowledge predict about a scientist's own teach-back lines, and why is reading them aloud the test?

Camerer, Loewenstein and Weber's finding is that the better-informed person cannot fully set their knowledge aside when predicting what the less-informed person understands. Six of the bank's twelve lines say "model", and they were written by someone trying to be plain. The listener's "sorry, what do you mean?" is the only reliable detector, and she will usually nod instead, which is why you read to a colleague first.

2 · Why is "the two wrong guesses cost different amounts" the one concept for this meeting?

The concept is chosen by the belief it prevents, not by how interesting it is. The fast run on the bench records "optimise for accuracy" at minute 5, and the ratio between the two costs is hers to set, not yours. A scientist who picks lead time and explains it beautifully can still ship a forecast that catches almost nothing.

3 · What separates a lesson from a lecture, and what is the only proof that a line taught something?

Fitzpatrick's third rule, talk less and listen more, is the whole discipline. On the bench the mechanism is trust: every open question earns a point, six facts sit behind trust gates, and the teach-back line is where the point is earned. A lecture spends minutes and earns nothing, the same arithmetic as the technical opener with a friendlier face.

Sources covered

What this session teaches, and where it came from

✓The curse of knowledge, the term and the findingCamerer, Loewenstein and Weber, "The Curse of Knowledge in Economic Settings", Journal of Political Economy 97(5), 1989. One paragraph here; the Tech Writing course teaches it in depth
✓The bench mechanism quoted hereSession 3's bench run headlessly on the bank: jargon questions cost five minutes and a point of trust, six facts sit behind trust gates, the fast run records "optimise for accuracy" at minute 5, and the scientist-tuned run asks eleven open questions with no false belief recorded
◐Talk less and listen more; the third ruleRob Fitzpatrick, The Mom Test, self-published, 2013; reported from consistent summaries, book not opened here
◐Measurement as a plain sentenceDouglas W. Hubbard, How to Measure Anything, 3rd ed., Wiley, 2014; definition reported as it appears across sources, book not opened here
◐Harbourline, Adeline Tan, the three stories and the 99 percentConstructed. The labels nod, the wrong concept and the Johor follow-up are invented to be typical; the 1,520 pairs and "above 99 percent" are arithmetic on the constructed sheet, not a claim about any real pharmacy chain. No cost ratio between the two wrong guesses is claimed, because the bank gives none
◐The lecture rail and the white on the lesson railDrawn, not measured. No study of talk time in discovery meetings is cited, because none was read; only the tick minutes come from the bench

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Session 4 cheat sheet · pin this

Your curse, not hersYou cannot hear your own jargon. Read the line to someone else and watch their face.
The usual offendersModel, feature, label, precision, recall, threshold, class imbalance, backtest. Each has a plain version.
Her word, your word"Predict" is hers, so use it. "Model" is yours, and it is the hardest one to hear.
One concept per meetingNinety seconds, three sentences: what it is, why it matters, her Thursday. Here: the two wrong guesses cost different amounts.
Plain, true, one sentenceA second sentence about method is a lecture. The tell: she stops answering and starts nodding.
The only proofA follow-up question from her. A nod proves nothing; "makes sense" closes the topic.