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Learn Value Investing with Phoebe · Owner session 3 of 6

The margin of safety

Owner session 2 left you with a range for what Halden Tiles is worth, not a number. Tonight a price arrives, and the question changes from "what is it worth" to "how much room am I leaving for being wrong". The margin of safety is that room: the gap between what you think a business is worth and what you pay, measured against value, and measured against the view of the future you most need to survive. No market prices; the only price on the page is the cousin's constructed one, or one you type yourself.

🟢 Owner Anyone curious how a business is valued, no finance background needed No code 45 min
0-3 · Welcome 3-18 · The gap, the bridge, how big 18-40 · Build-along: test the cousin's price 40-45 · Q&A
Part 0

Where we start

Every estimate of value in Owner session 2 was built on guesses: the spend to stand still, the growth path, the discount rate. Each guess could be wrong, and some of them will be. Benjamin Graham's answer, which he called the central concept of investment, was not to guess better. It was to pay so far below your estimate that the guesses can be wrong and you still come out whole. Tonight you put a number on that gap for the cousin's offer, decide which of your three views it has to survive, and write her a reply.

🎫 Clear all three quiz questions to stamp your passport Live = presented in the 45 minutes Self-study = the full depth, after class ★ Build-along = everyone works it through

★ What you walk out with tonight. The margin-of-safety formula and the reason it divides by value; the cousin's asking price tested against all three views of Halden, with one of the three margins negative; a ceiling price you set before any negotiation; and a short written reply to the cousin that says what you would pay and why, or that you would walk away.

Part 1 · covers the margin as a gap against value

The gap between value and price

5 min live

Put the value range from Owner session 2 on a line. Put the price somewhere on the same line. The margin of safety is the distance from the price up to the value, written as a share of the value: margin = (value - price) / value. When the price sits well below the value, the margin is large and positive. When the price sits above the value, the margin is negative, and you are paying for more than you think you are getting.

THE PRICE, ON THE SAME LINE AS THE VALUE RANGE Halden Tiles, constructed · whole business, millions, at 10 percent cousin's asking price: 10.0 for the whole 1.00 million for 10 percent, constructed bear 8.18 base 12.75 bull 15.82 margin of safety = (value - price) / value against base: (12.75 - 10.0) / 12.75 against bear: (8.18 - 10.0) / 8.18 21.6 percent vs base -22.2 percent vs bear 0 4 8 12 16 A comfortable gap against the base view is a negative one against the bear view. Same price, same business.
🔍 Click to zoom - the margin is only as safe as the view you measure it against; against the bear view this price has none
LiveThe formula, and why it divides by value, not price3 min▶

The margin answers one question: how far can my estimate of value fall before the price I paid is too much? That is a question about the value, so the gap is written as a share of the value. Halden's base view is 12.75 million for the whole; the cousin is asking the equivalent of 10.0 million. The gap is 2.75 million, and 2.75 out of 12.75 is 21.6 percent. Your base estimate can be 21.6 percent too high and you still have not overpaid.

Dividing by the price instead gives 27.5 percent for the same gap, a bigger and more flattering number that answers a different question (how much the price would have to rise to reach your estimate). It is not wrong arithmetic, but it is not the safety question, and the flattering version is the one people reach for when they want to buy. Graham set out the margin of safety in chapter 20 of The Intelligent Investor, which he titled as the central concept of investment (reported: the book was not read at source for these pages). The idea in his words is paraphrased here, not quoted: buy at a price far enough below a conservative estimate of value that errors in the estimate do not ruin you.

Self-studyA margin against the base is not a margin against the bear3 min▶

Run the same formula against the other two views. Against the bull view, 15.82 million, the margin is 36.8 percent and the price looks generous. Against the bear view, 8.18 million, it is -22.2 percent: the price is above what the business is worth if the two builders who now order online are the start of a trend. One price, three margins, and one of them points the wrong way.

Which one matters depends on what you can live with, not on which view you believe most. If the bear view would be a painful loss you could not shrug off, the bear margin is the one that has to be positive. If you are confident the bear view is far-fetched, you can lean on the base, but that confidence is itself an estimate, and Owner session 6 is about how often confidence like that is too narrow. Another way to read the same price: at 10 percent, with 2 percent growth after year 10, 10.0 million for the whole implies owner earnings shrinking about 1.4 percent a year for ten years (modelled). The price already sits between the bear and the base. Analyst session 5 works that reverse calculation by hand.

Real world

Halden Tiles, constructed: the cousin's number. The cousin asks 1.00 million for 10 percent, which is 10.0 million for the whole. She points out that it is "about what the neighbour paid". Her price falls inside your range of 8.2 to 15.8 million, which feels reassuring and is not the point. Inside the range is exactly where a price can be safe against one view and unsafe against another. The question is not whether the price is in the range; it is which end of the range it has to beat.

Part 2 · covers what the margin protects against

Build the bridge for heavier trucks

5 min live

In his 1984 talk at Columbia, later printed as "The Superinvestors of Graham-and-Doddsville", Buffett described the margin in engineering terms. When you build a bridge, you insist it can carry 30,000 pounds, and then you drive 10,000-pound trucks across it. The rating is your estimate of value. The truck is the price you pay. The spare capacity between them is not waste; it is what keeps the bridge up on the day your load calculations turn out to be wrong.

THE RATING IS YOUR VALUE, THE TRUCK IS YOUR PRICE Buffett, Superinvestors of Graham-and-Doddsville, 1984 rated 30,000 pounds what it can carry truck, 10,000 pounds built for three times the load it carries 30,000 the margin 20,000 spare 10,000 rating = value load = price Paying 80 million for a business worth 83 leaves 3 million of spare capacity. Any error in the 83 uses it up.
🔍 Click to zoom - the brass block is the margin; it is capacity you deliberately leave unused, for the load you did not foresee
LiveWhat the margin protects against3 min▶

Three different things can push the real load past what you expected, and the margin has to absorb all of them.

Estimate error. Your value came from guesses: the spend to stand still, the growth path, the rate. Owner session 2 showed that moving those guesses within honest bounds spreads Halden's value from 6.9 to 21.4 million. Some of that spread is still there when you pay. Bad luck. A supplier fails, a road closes outside a showroom, a recession arrives in year two. None of these was in any view, and none was your fault. Your own mistakes. You misread the books, trusted the wrong person, or let a price you heard earlier pull your estimate towards it. The margin is the one protection that works against all three at once, because it does not need you to know in advance which one will happen.

Self-studyWhy a margin is not a discount to a past price3 min▶

"It is 40 percent below where it was last year" sounds like a margin of safety and is not one. A fall in price measures a change in other people's opinion; it says nothing about the gap between the price now and the value now. If the business got worse, the value may have fallen further than the price, and the "cheap" price could carry a negative margin.

The neighbour's "about a million" is the same trap from the other side. It is a price for a different business, paid last year, by somebody else. Being at or below it tells you nothing about Halden. A margin always has value on one side of the subtraction, and the value is yours: estimated from the business, written down as a range, before you looked at any price. Why a past or quoted price is not information about value is the whole of Owner session 5.

Real world

Buffett, 1984: you do not pay 80 for 83. In the same Columbia talk Buffett said a careful buyer would not buy a business worth 83 million dollars for 80 million. His phrase for the habit was that "you do not cut it close". The arithmetic says why: 80 against 83 is a margin of under 4 percent, and an estimate of value made by a person is rarely good to within 4 percent. Leave a large gap, he said, and the bridge stays up even when you got the weight wrong. Read at source in a reprint of the 1984 Hermes article.

Part 3 · covers choosing the size of the margin

How big a margin

5 min live

There is no published rule that fixes the right size. Graham and Buffett both ask for a large one, and any fixed fraction you hear quoted is a habit, not a finding. The size is a judgment, and it should follow one principle: the less sure you are of your value, the wider the gap you need. Here is what a one-third margin against Halden's base view would mean in practice.

A RULER FOR THE WHOLE OF HALDEN constructed · millions, at 10 percent · one-third margin against the base view cousin asks 10.0 constructed bear 8.18 base 12.75 bull 15.82 at or below the ceiling: you would pay above the ceiling 0 4 8 12 16 your ceiling: 8.50 for the whole 12.75 less one third · 0.85 million for 10 percent No published rule fixes one third. It is a choice; the less sure you are of the value, the lower the ceiling.
🔍 Click to zoom - a one-third margin against the base puts your ceiling at 8.50, just above the bear view and well below the cousin's 10.0
LiveThe margin scales with how unsure you are3 min▶

A one-third margin against Halden's base of 12.75 million puts your ceiling at 8.50 million for the whole, 0.85 million for 10 percent. Notice where that lands: just above the bear view of 8.18. Measured against the base, a one-third margin happens to leave you almost safe against the bear as well. That is not a coincidence you can rely on; it is a property of how wide this particular range is.

Turn the principle into questions. How wide was your range? Halden's runs from 8.2 to 15.8 million at one discount rate, and wider across rates; a wide range asks for a wide margin. How much of the value depends on the far future? In Owner session 2, nearly half of Halden's base value came from beyond year 10, and the far years are the least knowable. How much do you trust the numbers you were given? Halden's books are kept in a way only the cousin understands. Each "not sure" pushes the margin up. A business you understand very well, with steady owners' cash and books you can read, can carry a smaller one.

Self-studyWalking away is a valid answer2 min▶

Once you have set a ceiling, the cousin's price either sits below it or above it. At 1.00 million for 10 percent, it sits above your 0.85. You can offer your ceiling, explain why, and accept that she may say no. You can ask for what would change your estimate, such as books you can read or evidence that the online ordering is not spreading, and recompute. Or you can walk away.

Walking away costs nothing that you owned. The too-hard tray from Owner session 1 can hold this offer too. The mistake to avoid is the quiet one: moving your ceiling up to meet her price because you have already imagined owning the slice. A ceiling set before the conversation is worth more than one set during it, which is why the build-along writes it down first.

Real world

Why estimates need wider margins than they feel like they need. The Base Rate Book (Mauboussin, Callahan and Majd, Credit Suisse, 2016, read at source in a hosted copy) compared analysts' forecasts of three-year net income growth with what companies had actually done. The forecasts had a spread, a standard deviation, of 19.2 percent; actual past growth had a spread of 34.6 percent. The authors' summary was that forecasts are "too optimistic and too narrow". If professional forecasts are too narrow, a range you built on a Saturday afternoon probably is too, and the margin is where you pay for that.

Build-along

Test the cousin's price

★ 22 min · everyone works it through

No code and no market prices. Halden Tiles is constructed: the range comes from Owner session 2 and the cousin's price is invented. Work each step on paper. Then repeat it for the business from your homework, typing whatever price you have been offered or imagine being offered; your numbers will differ, and the shape of the reasoning is what carries over.

THE COUSIN'S PRICE AGAINST ALL THREE VIEWS Halden Tiles, constructed · whole business, millions, at 10 percent VIEW VALUE ASKING PRICE MARGIN bear -3% a year, then 0% 8.18 10.0 -22.2 percent base 2% a year throughout 12.75 10.0 21.6 percent bull 5% for 10 years, then 2% 15.82 10.0 36.8 percent one-third margin against base: pay at most 8.50 for the whole, 0.85 for 10 percent One price, three margins. Decide which row you must be safe against before you look at the other two.
🔍 Click to zoom - the red cell is the one that decides; a ceiling set against the base lands just above the bear value

Step 1 · Write the range down first. Before you look at the price again, copy your three views from Owner session 2 onto the worksheet. Writing them first protects them from the number you are about to type.

★ Step 1 · Halden's range, constructedWhole business, at 10 percent, millions bear 8.18 (owner earnings shrink 3% a year for 10 years, then flat) base 12.75 (2% a year throughout) bull 15.82 (5% a year for 10 years, then 2%) Range: 8.2 to 15.8 for the whole; 0.82 to 1.58 for 10 percent

Step 2 · Type the asking price, on the same scale. The cousin quotes a price for 10 percent. Scale it up to the whole so it sits on the same line as your range. Mixing a slice price with a whole-business value is the most common arithmetic slip in this exercise.

★ Step 2 · the price, constructedAsking price for 10 percent: 1.00 million Implied price for the whole: 1.00 / 0.10 = 10.0 million Source: the cousin, constructed (NOT the neighbour's "about a million")

Step 3 · Compute the three margins. Same formula each time, value minus price, divided by value. Keep the sign: a negative margin is the most useful number on the sheet.

★ Step 3 · margin = (value - price) / valuebear (8.18 - 10.0) / 8.18 = -22.2 percent <- price above value base (12.75 - 10.0) / 12.75 = 21.6 percent bull (15.82 - 10.0) / 15.82 = 36.8 percent

Step 4 · Decide which view you must be safe against. Not the view you think most likely: the one whose outcome you could not shrug off. Write one sentence on why.

★ Step 4 · the view that decidesMust be safe against: close to the bear view Why: two builders already order direct online, and I cannot yet read the books; if both get worse, bear is not far-fetched

Step 5 · Set your ceiling, before any conversation. Pick a margin size and the view it is measured against, then compute the most you would pay. Write it down and sign it, metaphorically. This number does not move during the negotiation.

★ Step 5 · the ceiling, constructedMargin chosen: one third, against the base view (a judgment, not a rule) Ceiling, whole: 12.75 x (1 - 1/3) = 8.50 million Ceiling, 10 percent: 0.85 million Check vs bear: 8.50 is just above 8.18, so almost no margin vs bear

Step 6 · Write the reply to the cousin. Three or four sentences: what you would pay, the reason in plain words, and what would change your number. A reply that explains the gap is a better negotiation than a bare counter-offer, and it keeps the family dinner pleasant.

★ Step 6 · the reply, constructed"Thank you for the offer. On my numbers 10 percent is worth somewhere between 0.82 and 1.58 million, and if the online ordering keeps spreading it is nearer the bottom. I would pay up to 0.85 million today. If I could read two years of the books, I would happily look at it again."

Keep the order as a standing rule. Range first, price second, margins third, ceiling fourth, conversation last. Every step done out of order lets a number you heard bend a number you were supposed to estimate.

Homework

Before Owner session 4

30 min
  1. Put a price against your own range. Take the business from your Owner session 2 homework, type a price you have seen offered or one you imagine, and compute the margin against each of your three views.
  2. Find the negative one. If no margin is negative, move the price up until one is, and write down the price at which your bear view stops being covered.
  3. Set and justify a ceiling. Choose a margin size and the view it is measured against, and write two sentences on why that size fits how unsure you are about this business.
  4. Spot one false margin this week. Find a claim that something is "cheap" because its price fell, or because it costs less than something else, and rewrite it as a real margin: what value, against what price. Owner session 4 asks whether you understood the business well enough to estimate the value at all.
Check yourself

Three questions

Clear all three and Owner session 3 gets stamped in your passport.

1 · Halden Tiles (constructed) has a base value of 12.75 million for the whole. The cousin asks 1.00 million for 10 percent. What is the margin of safety against the base view?

Scale the slice price to the whole first (1.00 / 0.10 = 10.0), then divide the gap by the value. Option B divides by the price, which answers a different question and flatters the deal; C mixes a slice with a whole; D is the price as a share of value, the complement of the margin.

2 · Why is the margin of safety written as a share of value rather than a share of price?

The margin is protection against your estimate of value being wrong, so the value is the base. Dividing by value gives the smaller, more honest number for the same gap: 21.6 percent rather than 27.5 for Halden. A past fall in price is not a margin at all.

3 · In Buffett's 1984 talk, a bridge is built to carry 30,000 pounds and only 10,000-pound trucks drive across. What does that mean for a buyer?

The spare capacity is the point, not waste. Buffett used the 80-for-83 example as what not to do: a gap of under 4 percent is smaller than the error in almost any person's estimate of value.

Sources covered

What this session teaches, and where it came from

✓Margin of safety as a large gap between value and price; the bridge built for 30,000 pounds carrying 10,000-pound trucks; not paying 80 million for a business worth 83 millionBuffett, W., "The Superinvestors of Graham-and-Doddsville", Hermes, Fall 1984 (read at source, reprint)
◐The margin of safety as the central concept of investmentGraham, B., "The Intelligent Investor", chapter 20 (reported); paraphrased, never quoted, because the book was not read at source for these pages
✓Forecasts too optimistic and too narrow: 19.2 vs 34.6 percent spread in three-year net income growthMauboussin, M., Callahan, D. and Majd, D., "The Base Rate Book", Credit Suisse, 2016 (read at source, hosted copy)
◐Halden Tiles: the value range, the cousin's asking price, the three margins and the one-third ceilingConstructed business; every Halden figure is invented and labelled so; values modelled at 10 percent in Owner session 2

Every fact on this page, and its verification tier, is recorded in the course's source map.

Owner session 3 cheat sheet · pin this

The formulaMargin = (value - price) / value. Divide by value: the question is how far your estimate can fall.
Same scale firstTurn a slice price into a whole-business price before comparing it with a whole-business value.
One price, three marginsCompute against bear, base and bull. Keep the sign; the negative one is the most useful.
The bridgeRated for 30,000, carry 10,000. The gap absorbs estimate error, bad luck and your own mistakes.
Size is a judgmentNo published rule fixes it. The less sure you are of the value, the lower your ceiling.
Ceiling before conversationWrite the most you would pay before you talk. Walking away is a valid answer.