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Learn Value Investing with Phoebe · Owner session 2 of 6

Value is a range, not a number

Last session ended with one figure: Halden Tiles hands its owners about 1.00 million a year. Tonight asks what that stream is worth today, and the honest answer is not one number. It is three stories about the next ten years, a rate that is your own judgment, and a long tail of years nobody can picture. Put them together and you get a range wide enough to be uncomfortable. That discomfort is the most accurate thing a valuation can tell you.

🟢 Owner Anyone who has met Halden in Owner session 1, no finance background needed No code 45 min
0-3 · Welcome 3-18 · Three views, the inputs, the far years 18-40 · Build-along: write Halden's value as a range 40-45 · Q&A
Part 0

Where we start

A valuation that ends in a single number feels finished. It is usually the opposite: one number means somebody picked one growth story, one discount rate and one guess about the far future, and then stopped showing their work. Tonight keeps the work visible. You will value Halden Tiles three ways, at three rates, read off nine answers, and write down the range they make, along with the facts that would push you to either edge of it.

🎫 Clear all three quiz questions to stamp your passport Live = presented in the 45 minutes Self-study = the full depth, after class ★ Build-along = everyone works it through

Every Halden number is constructed. Halden Tiles is an invented family firm. Its owner earnings, its three growth paths and its nine values were made up to make the reasoning visible, then worked through with a standard two-stage model. The shape of the reasoning is real; the figures are not about any real company, and nothing here recommends buying anything.

★ What you walk out with tonight. A bear, base and bull view of one business, each a sentence you could defend to a sceptical friend; a feel for which inputs move the answer most; the idea of terminal share, the part of the value that comes from beyond year ten; and one written range sentence for Halden, with what would move you to each edge of it.

Part 1 · covers bear, base and bull views

Three honest views of one business

5 min live

Halden starts from the same place in every view: about 1.00 million a year for its owners today. What differs is the story of the next ten years. In the bear view, builders keep drifting to ordering online and owner earnings slip 3 percent a year, then stop falling. In the base view, they grow 2 percent a year, roughly with the region's building work, for good. In the bull view, Halden wins its builders back and grows 5 percent a year for ten years, then settles at 2 percent. Each path, valued at 10 percent, gives one value for the whole business.

HALDEN TILES, THREE HONEST VIEWS constructed · owner earnings path, then value of the whole at 10 percent, millions OWNER EARNINGS, MILLIONS A YEAR today: 1.00 YEAR 0 YEAR 5 YEAR 10 bull · 15.82 +5% a year, then 2% base · 12.75 +2% a year, always bear · 8.18 -3% a year, then flat the honest range 8.2 to 15.8 million, the whole at 10 percent Same business, same 1.00 today. Only the ten-year story differs, and the value moves from 8.18 to 15.82.
🔍 Click to zoom - the hatched fan is what you do not know yet; the brass bracket is the honest way to write it down
LiveWhy three views beat one3 min▶

A single forecast quietly answers a question you have not asked yet: which future is this business heading for? For Halden you do not know. Two builders already order online; whether the rest follow is the biggest open fact about the business. A single base case buries that fact inside one growth rate. Three views drag it into the open, because each view has to say what happened to the builders.

Three views also change the conversation. "Is 12.75 right?" has no useful answer. "What would have to be true for the bear case, and how would I find out?" does. Each view becomes a short list of facts to check, and the checking is where an owner earns an edge. The point is not to average the three. It is to know which story you are in, and to notice early if it changes.

Self-studyHow to write a bear case that is not a disaster movie3 min▶

A useful bear case is the plausible bad decade, not the end of the world. Halden's bear view is that owner earnings shrink 3 percent a year for ten years, then hold steady. Shrinking 3 percent ten times in a row leaves about 0.74 million a year by year 10: a quarter less, not zero. It is anchored in a weak point you already found in Owner session 1, builders ordering direct online, and it imagines that trend continuing at a steady pace.

A disaster movie (the showrooms close, the cousin walks out, the business is gone in two years) is a different question. If you think it is likely, Halden fails gate 2, favourable long-term prospects, and goes in the too-hard tray before any valuation. Keep the two apart. The bear case asks "what is it worth if the known weak point keeps hurting". The disaster asks "should I be valuing this at all".

Three tests for a bear case: it names a cause you can observe, it uses a path no worse than the cause can plausibly produce, and a reasonable person who likes the business would still say "yes, that could happen".

Real world

Buffett on the price of precision. In the appendix to his 1986 letter, Buffett admitted that owner earnings cannot give the neat, exact-looking figures that accounting rules produce, because one input, the spending a business needs just to stand still, has to be a guess. He did not treat that as a defect to hide. His line was "I would rather be vaguely right than precisely wrong." A range is how you write "vaguely right" down. (Buffett, 1986 letter, appendix, read at source.)

Part 2 · covers which inputs move the value

Which inputs move the answer most

5 min live

The growth view is one input. The discount rate is the other big one: how much you shrink each future year's cash to compare it with money today. Halden's default is 10 percent, itself a judgment for a small private family firm whose books only the cousin understands. Try 8 percent and 12 percent as well, and the three views become nine values. Across all nine, Halden is worth somewhere between 6.9 and 21.4 million for the whole. The width is the lesson.

NINE DEFENSIBLE VALUES FOR ONE BUSINESS constructed · Halden, the whole business, millions · 3 views x 3 rates AT 8 PERCENT AT 10 PERCENT AT 12 PERCENT bear -3% a year, then 0% base +2% a year, always bull +5% a year, then 2% 10.08 8.18 6.91 17.00 12.75 the default 10.20 21.42 15.82 12.48 brass column: widest spread at 8%: 10.08 to 21.42, 11.3 wide at 10%: 8.18 to 15.82, 7.6 wide at 12%: 6.91 to 12.48, 5.6 wide why the low rate widens it far years count for more, so the views drift further apart base row, 8 to 12%: 17.00 to 10.20 All nine values for the whole: 6.9 to 21.4 million. Every one is defensible; none of them is the answer.
🔍 Click to zoom - read across a row to see the rate at work, down a column to see the story at work; the brass column is where they compound
LiveThe discount rate is a judgment about time and risk3 min▶

The rate does two jobs at once. It charges for time: money in ten years is worth less than money now, even if it is certain to arrive. And it charges for risk: the less sure you are that the cash will come, the more you shrink it. Neither charge is printed anywhere. You choose it, and the choice is as much a part of the valuation as the growth view.

Halden's 10 percent is a judgment for a small private family firm: one region, four suppliers, books only the cousin can read, and a stake you could not easily sell. A large business with audited accounts and steady customers might deserve a lower rate; a riskier one, a higher rate. What you must not do is choose the rate after seeing which value you like. Write the rate and the reason first, then read off the answer. Why money later is worth less, the price of time, is taught in Economics, Foundations session 5 ↗. How professionals derive a rate is beyond these pages; Analyst session 4 shows it as a choice in the arithmetic.

Self-studyGrowth or rate: which matters more for Halden?3 min▶

Read it off the grid, nothing else. Hold the rate at 10 percent and change the story: the value moves from 8.18 (bear) to 15.82 (bull), a spread of 7.6 million. Hold the story at base and change the rate from 8 to 12 percent: the value moves from 17.00 to 10.20, a spread of 6.8 million. For Halden, with these particular choices, the story moves the answer slightly more than the rate. The two are close enough that neither can be ignored.

The more important pattern is that they compound. At 8 percent the three stories spread 11.3 million apart; at 12 percent only 5.6. And the bear row barely reacts to the rate (10.08 to 6.91) while the bull row reacts a lot (21.42 to 12.48). The reason is Part 3: the bull view keeps more of its value in the far years, and the rate bites hardest on the far years. Which input matters most is not a fixed fact about valuation; it depends on the business and on the other inputs. Analyst session 6 builds this grid for real filers.

Real world

Halden's rate, written down first, constructed. Before reading any of the nine values, you write one line: "10 percent, because Halden is small, private, run by one person, with books I cannot yet read; I would accept 8 if the books turn out clean and 12 if the online drift speeds up." That line is the discipline. Six months later, when the books are clean or the drift has sped up, you know which column to move to and why, instead of drifting to whichever number felt better on the day.

Part 3 · covers terminal share and durability

Most of the value is far away

5 min live

The two-stage model counts years 1 to 10 one by one, then wraps every year after that into a single figure, the terminal value, brought back to today. For Halden's base view at 10 percent, the ten years you can picture are worth 6.76 million. Everything after year 10 is worth 5.99 million. That second figure is 47 percent of the whole value: the terminal share. In the bear view it is 35 percent, in the bull view 51 percent.

HALDEN'S BASE VALUE, NEAR AND FAR constructed · modelled at 10 percent · the whole business, millions 47 percent beyond year 10 beyond year 10 5.99 million today's value of years 11 onward years 1 to 10 6.76 million 53 percent of the value 12.75 base value, whole, at 10% the other two views base 47% bear 35% bull 51% Nearly half of Halden's base value sits beyond the years anyone can picture. Durability decides it.
🔍 Click to zoom - the brass block is value from years nobody can forecast; the more hopeful the view, the bigger it gets
LiveWhy durability matters as much as the number3 min▶

The brass block assumes Halden keeps handing its owners cash, growing slowly, long after year 10. Nobody can forecast year 15 of a tile business. What you can judge is durability: will builders still need advice on which tile suits which floor, will the showrooms still draw them, can a rival or a website take that away? If Halden's advantage lasts, the brass block is roughly right. If it fades, the brass block shrinks, and with it almost half the value.

This is why the bull view gains the most from the far years (51 percent) and the bear view the least (35 percent): hope lives in the far future. It is also why Part 2's bull row reacted most to the rate. A moat, in the language of value investing, is just the reason the brass block might be real. Moats as economics, the strategy of keeping rivals out, are taught in Economics, Foundations session 6 ↗. Here a moat is a valuation input: how long the excess returns last. Analyst session 8 measures how fast they usually fade.

Self-studyPrecision as a warning sign: a value to the cent is a model talking3 min▶

Halden's base value prints as 12.75 million. A spreadsheet would happily print 12,750,000.00. Every one of those extra digits is false. They come from multiplying a guessed growth rate by a chosen discount rate over a future nobody has seen, and nearly half of the total comes from years after year 10. The number has more decimal places than the inputs have certainty.

So treat precision as a signal to look harder, not to relax. When a valuation arrives as one exact figure, ask three questions: which growth story is it, which rate, and what share of it sits beyond the forecast years. If the answers are not on the page, the precision is the model talking, not the business. Rounding Halden's range to 8.2 to 15.8 is not sloppiness; it is the honest number of digits.

Real world

Why the far years grow slowly. Aswath Damodaran's NYU Stern valuation slides set a rule for the terminal stage: the stable growth rate a business is assumed to hold forever cannot exceed the growth rate of the economy, though it can be lower. A business that grew faster than the economy forever would eventually be bigger than the economy. That is why Halden's base and bull views both settle at a modest 2 percent after year 10, and its bear view at zero. (Damodaran, valuation class slides, terminal value session, NYU Stern, 2023, read at source.)

Build-along

Write Halden's value as a range

★ 22 min · everyone works it through

No code and no market prices. Halden Tiles is constructed, and the nine values below were worked through with a standard two-stage model, so you read them off rather than compute them. The work tonight is the judgment around the numbers: three stories you can defend, a rate with a reason, and one sentence that says what you know and what would change it. Then do the same in words for the business from your Owner session 1 homework; your numbers will differ, and you may only have the stories, which is fine.

HALDEN'S VALUE, WRITTEN AS A RANGE constructed · the whole business, millions honest range at 10 percent: 8.2 to 15.8 million a 10 percent stake: 0.82 to 1.58 million 5 10 15 20 bear 8.18 base 12.75 bull 15.82 MILLIONS, WHOLE all nine values, rates 8 to 12 percent: 6.9 to 21.4 million Write the bracket, not a dot. The dot is a model talking; the bracket is what you actually know.
🔍 Click to zoom - the brass bracket is the sentence you write; the hatched band reminds you how much the rate could still widen it

Step 1 · Write the base path. The base view is what happens if the business carries on roughly as it is. Write it as a sentence first, then as a growth rate, then as the fact it rests on.

★ Step 1 · base, constructedStory: Halden keeps its builders; online drift stays at two of them Path: owner earnings grow 2% a year, for good Rests on: regional building work keeps growing slowly and steadily

Step 2 · Write the bear path. The plausible bad decade, anchored on a weak point you can watch. Not a disaster movie; if you believe the disaster, Halden belongs in the too-hard tray instead.

★ Step 2 · bear, constructedStory: more builders order direct online, a few each year Path: owner earnings fall 3% a year for 10 years, then hold flat Year 10: about 0.74 million a year, a quarter below today Rests on: online ordering keeps spreading at a steady pace

Step 3 · Write the bull path. The plausible good decade. It must also name a cause you could check, not just a nicer number.

★ Step 3 · bull, constructedStory: Halden wins builders back with advice and credit online cannot give Path: owner earnings grow 5% a year for 10 years, then 2% Year 10: about 1.63 million a year Rests on: the two lost builders return, and new ones follow

Step 4 · Pick the rate, and write the reason before you look. One rate as the default, one either side, each with the fact that would move you to it.

★ Step 4 · the rate, a judgmentDefault: 10%, small private family firm, one region, books I cannot yet read Move to 8%: if the books turn out clean and the builders stay Move to 12%: if the online drift speeds up or the books stay closed

Step 5 · Read off the nine values. Copy the grid from Part 2. Circle your default cell and the two cells either side of it in the 10 percent column.

★ Step 5 · the grid, the whole business, millions at 8% at 10% at 12% bear 10.08 8.18 6.91 base 17.00 12.75 10.20 bull 21.42 15.82 12.48 All nine: 6.9 to 21.4 million

Step 6 · Write the range sentence, and what would move you to the edges. One sentence for the value, two for the edges. This is the output of tonight, and it is what Owner session 3 sets a price against.

★ Step 6 · the range sentence"At 10 percent, Halden is worth between 8.2 and 15.8 million for the whole, 0.82 to 1.58 million for 10 percent. Toward the bear edge: more builders ordering direct online. Toward the bull edge: lost builders returning, and books that prove clean."

Keep the range sentence as a standing rule. A value is written as low to high, at a stated rate, with one observable fact for each edge. If you cannot name what would move you to an edge, you do not yet know why the range is as wide as it is.

Homework

Before Owner session 3

30 min
  1. Write three views for the business from your Owner session 1 homework: a bear, base and bull story, each with a rough growth path and the one fact it rests on.
  2. Test your bear case against the three checks from Part 1: an observable cause, a plausible pace, and a fan of the business would still say "that could happen". Rewrite it if it fails one.
  3. Write your rate line for that business: a default, the reason, and the fact that would move it up or down. Write it before you think about any value.
  4. Find one single-number forecast in your work or life (a budget, a sales target, a finish date) and rewrite it as a range sentence with what would move it to each edge. Session 3 puts a price next to a range.
Check yourself

Three questions

Clear all three and Owner session 2 gets stamped in your passport.

1 · Why write Halden's value at 10 percent as 8.2 to 15.8 million rather than simply 12.75 million?

12.75 is a reasonable base value; the problem is what it leaves out. Halden's biggest unknown, whether builders keep moving online, moves the value from 8.18 to 15.82 at the same rate. Writing the range keeps that fact in view. Picking an end to suit a price is exactly what the written range is meant to prevent.

2 · Reading only Halden's nine values, which statement does the grid support?

For Halden the story spread (7.6 million) and the rate spread on the base view (6.8 million) are close, so neither can be dropped. The bear row is the least sensitive to the rate, not the most, because less of its value sits in the far years where the rate bites hardest.

3 · Halden's base view at 10 percent has a terminal share of 47 percent. What does that mean?

Terminal share is the part of today's value that comes from beyond the forecast years. It is 35 percent in the bear view and 51 percent in the bull view: the more hopeful the story, the more of it lives in years nobody can forecast. That is why durability matters as much as the number.

Sources covered

What this session teaches, and where it came from

✓Owner earnings cannot be precise because the spend to stand still is a guess; better roughly right than exactly wrongBerkshire Hathaway shareholder letter, 1986, appendix, read at source on berkshirehathaway.com
◐Halden Tiles: three views, nine values, terminal shares, the range at 10 percentConstructed business; every Halden figure is invented and labelled so, then worked through with a standard two-stage model
✓Two-stage valuation mechanics: a forecast stage, a terminal value, the discount rate as a choice, terminal shareStandard valuation; the arithmetic is done by hand in Analyst session 4; the terminal growth cap is from Damodaran, valuation class slides, terminal value session, NYU Stern, 2023 (read at source)

Every fact on this page, and its verification tier, is recorded in the course's source map.

Owner session 2 cheat sheet · pin this

A range, not a numberLow to high, at a stated rate. A single figure hides which story it picked.
Three honest viewsBear, base, bull. Each a sentence, a path, and one fact it rests on.
Bear is not a disasterThe plausible bad decade. If you believe the disaster, use the too-hard tray.
The rate is a judgmentTime and risk, chosen and written down before you read any value.
The far years carry halfTerminal share: Halden 47 percent base. Durability decides whether it is real.
Precision is a warningA value to the cent is a model talking. Ask: which story, which rate, how far away.